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president obama set to meet with mouse and senate leaders from both parties tomorrow to work out a deal hopefully to avert the fiscal cliff. and former president george h.w. bush remains in intensive care at a houston hospital after a series of health setbacks. >>> and the former president among those tonight mourning the death of the legendary american general storm norman schwarzkopf. he booted saddam hussein's forces out of kuwait in the he died in central florida. the assignment the last chanter in an extraordinary olive of service. general schwarzkopf was one of the most well known commanders in modern mill tare arery history. >> he most certainly was. his command of the gulf war inspired me to become a war correspondent. although he had a long connection with that region. he was obviously -- famous for being commander of the forces during the golf war. he had gone to school in tehran and iran as a kid. they were stationed there. schwarzkopf guided military school before serving in the south vietnamese airborne division. by the time he was a lieutenant colonel he distinguished hims
president obama set to meet with mouse and senate leaders from both parties tomorrow to work out a deal hopefully to avert the fiscal cliff. and former president george h.w. bush remains in intensive care at a houston hospital after a series of health setbacks. >>> and the former president among those tonight mourning the death of the legendary american general storm norman schwarzkopf. he booted saddam hussein's forces out of kuwait in the he died in central florida. the assignment...
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. >>> just a few more hours until president obama's meeting with the four congressional leaders, just four more days until the country, all of us americans go off the cliff. why this might just work out. >>> plus the connection between sex and the fiscal cliff. sex and the fiscal live? really. according to dr. ruth. yeah, don't shake your head at me. there really is a connection. >>> besides president obama, who was the biggest political winner of 2012 and why? find us on facebook. [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. start saving at citi.com/pricerewind. >>> well, i think this is a very pivotal point for our country. we have to get beyond people sort
. >>> just a few more hours until president obama's meeting with the four congressional leaders, just four more days until the country, all of us americans go off the cliff. why this might just work out. >>> plus the connection between sex and the fiscal cliff. sex and the fiscal live? really. according to dr. ruth. yeah, don't shake your head at me. there really is a connection. >>> besides president obama, who was the biggest political winner of 2012 and why? find...
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. >>> and coming up, david gregory's interview with president obama on "meet the press." our special coverage will continue after this. ♪ [ male announcer ] it started long ago. the joy of giving something everything you've got. it takes passion. and it's not letting up anytime soon. at unitedhealthcare insurance company, we understand that commitment. and always have. so does aarp, an organization serving the needs of americans 50 and over for generations. so it's no surprise millions have chosen an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, they help cover some of the expenses medicare doesn't pay. and save you up to thousands in out-of-pocket costs. to find out more, request your free decision guide. call or go online today. after all, when you're going the distance, it's nice to have the experience and commitment to go along with you. keep dreaming. keep doing. go long. >>> with the clock winding down to the fiscal cliff, no one is even talking about a grand bargain anymore
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here with president obama. that would not be good signs. >> whatever we come up with is going to be imperfect. not people aren't going to like it. some people will like it less. >> this is a total derelectino due of duty at every level. >> try and get at least a small package, at least a small deal together before the new year. >> if we don't have a deal within the next 24 hours, the question is where do you buy a pair of shoes? >> greta: senator bob corker joins us. you said it is a total dereliction of duty at every level. >> we still haven't even behe gun to deal with the issues causing the fiscal insolvent say we are facing and that is the entitlements. nothing has been discussed. it is not on o the table. we are not going to deal with it this year. it will be the issue we deal with running into the debt ceiling around mid march to the economy will continue to have a pail over it because we have not dealt with the issue that our nation needs to face up to right now. >> greta: shouldn't the american people b
here with president obama. that would not be good signs. >> whatever we come up with is going to be imperfect. not people aren't going to like it. some people will like it less. >> this is a total derelectino due of duty at every level. >> try and get at least a small package, at least a small deal together before the new year. >> if we don't have a deal within the next 24 hours, the question is where do you buy a pair of shoes? >> greta: senator bob corker joins...
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that's why president obama organized the meeting with vice president biden, speaker boehner, nancy pelosi and senators reid and mcconnell. he urged them to extend jobless benefits. we can deal with cuts to defense and domestic programs later. but let's take care of the middle and working class right now. give them assurance right now. joining me is congressman chief ellison. he's co-chair of the progressive caucus and melissa harris perry, host of the melissa harris perry show here on msnbc. thank you both for coming on the show. >> thank you, al. >> congressman, let me go to you first, this deal comes down to taxing the rich. how can they not realize this is what the country wants? >> i don't think that the republican leadership cares what the country wants. i think they care about what their biggest donors want and their big donors want to reorganize america so that -- because they believe that the rich don't have enough money and the poor have too much. so what we're hearing here is an expression of an et you logical idea that we need american society to be cost competitive with places
that's why president obama organized the meeting with vice president biden, speaker boehner, nancy pelosi and senators reid and mcconnell. he urged them to extend jobless benefits. we can deal with cuts to defense and domestic programs later. but let's take care of the middle and working class right now. give them assurance right now. joining me is congressman chief ellison. he's co-chair of the progressive caucus and melissa harris perry, host of the melissa harris perry show here on msnbc....
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we are having a tough time meeting our other obligations. as we see health care continue to go up in terms of cost, we are already seeing the affects of obama care because as you know there were certain provisions that have already taken affect. and we are having to include extra millions of dollars in our state budget this year just to cover the extra costs that have already been imposed upon us through our state employee health benefit plan. >> governor, it is great to have you here, and for making a clear explanation as to why you are saying you are not going to participate. hope you have a great 2013 in georgia and we look forward to seeing you soon. >> likewise. thank you. >>> he says the president couldn't get his environmental agenda passed, but he will force it through regulations. one of the senate environmental committee members, he will be talking about the problems those regulations could cause for all of us in 2013. stay with us. ♪ [ male announcer ] it started long ago. the joy of giving something everything you've got. it ta
we are having a tough time meeting our other obligations. as we see health care continue to go up in terms of cost, we are already seeing the affects of obama care because as you know there were certain provisions that have already taken affect. and we are having to include extra millions of dollars in our state budget this year just to cover the extra costs that have already been imposed upon us through our state employee health benefit plan. >> governor, it is great to have you here,...
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secret meeting to discuss what might be done about chemical weapons. not to do anying is also a choice. >> spoke to caroline glick, editor of "yum post" this morning and he is called the obama policy, using her words not mine insane. the small footprint leading from behind. if you weigh it against 19 years of the united states that we ran yesterday with young men coming home with no limbs, americans are tired of war and tired of thevo in the that part of the world. >> true. but 11 years of all-out war and zero. there is something in between. the footprint in libya is partial one. as a result, we succeed. it's where al-qaeda affiliates are and ambassador were slain. that is fruits of staying out as well. in syria, at the end they are going where? to russia. moscow. for 30 years if you had a problem in the middle east. the worst part is by not supplying the rebels we allow saudis and qatari to funnel to jihadist rebel. that is why the jihadists now have the upper hand. why we are looking at the prospect of radical al-qaeda like syria as a result. we didn
secret meeting to discuss what might be done about chemical weapons. not to do anying is also a choice. >> spoke to caroline glick, editor of "yum post" this morning and he is called the obama policy, using her words not mine insane. the small footprint leading from behind. if you weigh it against 19 years of the united states that we ran yesterday with young men coming home with no limbs, americans are tired of war and tired of thevo in the that part of the world. >>...
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the key negotiators mitch mcconnell on the republican side and harry reid on the democratic side to meet with respective senators at 3:00 p.m. this afternoon and should hear whether they feel like they have a deal or are still is struggling and perhaps have to go to president obama's plan c. shannon? >> shannon: we'll stand by. we know you are on it. mike emanuel on capitol hill. thanks. you are now looking live at the senate floor where a session is underway. the opening prayer there now being carried out asking for are wisdom and guidance for senators as they have a lot of work potentially ahead. shortly we should have is opening remarks from the majority leader, of course, senator are harry reid and then mitch mcconnell also expected. maybe first clues as to whether or not they hammered anything out. they complete the pledge now and then it is back to business. we'll keep you updated with any development there's. we have been asking you today to give us your input on a fiscal cliff. there are some lawmakers who say going over the cliff may actually be a food thing. do you agree or dis
the key negotiators mitch mcconnell on the republican side and harry reid on the democratic side to meet with respective senators at 3:00 p.m. this afternoon and should hear whether they feel like they have a deal or are still is struggling and perhaps have to go to president obama's plan c. shannon? >> shannon: we'll stand by. we know you are on it. mike emanuel on capitol hill. thanks. you are now looking live at the senate floor where a session is underway. the opening prayer there now...
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. >> mika and i sat down with the president at the site of the cgi meeting on the same day that both president obama and mitt romney were set to speak there. >> how would you characterize how he's been handling the collective problems that we're seeing percolating across the middle east? >> well, i think that first of all, i think they've done pretty well in a very chaotic situation. the arab spring was always going to have ups and downs or bumps in the road or whatever you want to call it. in libya, the tragic situation of the lost of our ambassador and the other americans, it's worth pointing out a couple of things. first of all, most of the libyan people who were aware of what's going on like the united states, they like the fact that we aggressively supported them and their desire to replace the gadhafi regime and decades of control and repression and a move to a more democratic system. the president of libya has asked to meet with me. we're going to have a nice visit. i think tomorrow. there were libyans who lost their lives in that attack, trying to protect americans. and that
. >> mika and i sat down with the president at the site of the cgi meeting on the same day that both president obama and mitt romney were set to speak there. >> how would you characterize how he's been handling the collective problems that we're seeing percolating across the middle east? >> well, i think that first of all, i think they've done pretty well in a very chaotic situation. the arab spring was always going to have ups and downs or bumps in the road or whatever you...
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there is late news tonight that president obama will convene a meeting of congressional leaders at the white house tomorrow afternoon to discuss the current impasse. and to give you a spirit of the compromise and sense of goodwill toward men in which republican house speaker john boehner is preechg this meeting here is a statement we were e-mailed by brendan balk. "tomorrow speaker boehner will attend a meeting where he will continue to stress that the house has already passed lj slaigs to avert the entire fiscal cliff and now the 123459 must act." so that's helpful. senator schatz, i know you probably just checked into the marriott capitol hill or something, but i don't know, you got any ideas? joining us is someone who i hope will have ideas. democratic senator debbie stabenow. senator stabenow, thank you for being with us tonight. >> absolutely, ezra. and i wanted to thank you for what is a very good summary of where we are. and it is the most frustrating thing i've ever gone through in my entire life, i think. >> i appreciate that. and covering it, what has been striking to me is t
there is late news tonight that president obama will convene a meeting of congressional leaders at the white house tomorrow afternoon to discuss the current impasse. and to give you a spirit of the compromise and sense of goodwill toward men in which republican house speaker john boehner is preechg this meeting here is a statement we were e-mailed by brendan balk. "tomorrow speaker boehner will attend a meeting where he will continue to stress that the house has already passed lj slaigs to...
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president obama says 250,000, maybe i think 350,000 is the line. maybe someone else, 500,000, maybe someone else, 150. we can meet somewhere. >> that threshold is a big issue, how high do you extend the tax cuts. tom harkin says they offered keeping it 460,000 for couples. >>> we have watched the timetable kind of slide forward and backward today. a 1:00 deadline, three 3:00, then 6:30 and then 4:00. are you hearing anything about a timeline tonight? >> hearing the senate majority leader talking about tomorrow's schedule, coming back at 11:00 a.m., that seems to be punting into tomorrow and certainly things can move quickly when there's a deal but the question is, will there be a deal. >> mike emanuel, we'll bring you back as news warrants. >>> we want to go to the white house where president obama is keeping a eye on capitol hill. the president making his case and pressing lawmakers to reach a deal. when asked about the fiscal cliff in an interview today. ed henry is live from the white house. the president seemed to be aggressively pushing his me
president obama says 250,000, maybe i think 350,000 is the line. maybe someone else, 500,000, maybe someone else, 150. we can meet somewhere. >> that threshold is a big issue, how high do you extend the tax cuts. tom harkin says they offered keeping it 460,000 for couples. >>> we have watched the timetable kind of slide forward and backward today. a 1:00 deadline, three 3:00, then 6:30 and then 4:00. are you hearing anything about a timeline tonight? >> hearing the senate...
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president obama will speak to nbc's david gregory on "meet the press" this sunday. it is obviously a critical moment for the economy, so you are going to want to tune in. "meet the press" is sunday morning. we be right back. [ thunder crashes ] [ male announcer ] if you think all batteries are the same... consider this: when the unexpected happens, there's one brand of battery more emergency workers trust in their maglites: duracell. one reason: duralock power preserve. it locks in power for up to 10 years in storage. guaranteed. so, whether it's 10 years' of life's sunny days... or... the occasional stormy one... trust goes a long way. duracell with duralock. trusted everywhere. >>> in 2009, president obama asked are ken salazar to come lead the department of the interior. salazar accepted the post, but that left his senate seat open. under colorado law, senate vacancy falls to the governor to decide, so the choice fell to governor bill ritter, a democrat. ritter made a call people did not expect. he didn't promote a congressman or mayor. he didn't go for a politic
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. >> at yesterday's white house meeting, president obama did not offer negotiators anything new. he just tried to sell them on the same plan he outlined last friday, being called plan c. since the president's plan a and speaker boehner's plan b both failed to gain traction. plan c would extend middle class tax rates and we're told the senate wants to tweak exactly who counts as being in the middle class. maybe even raising the income threshold and the white house is apparently willing to go as high as 4 or $500,000 a year. plan c would expand unemployment benefits for the 2 million people set to lose them at the end of this year. it would include a small amount of spending cuts but would not touch entitlements like medicare and not deal with the debt limit right now. >> i am modestly optimistic that an agreement can be achieved. nobody is going to get 100% of what they want. but let's make sure that middle class families and the american economy and in fact the world economy are aren't adversely affected because people can't do their jobs. >> and today lawmakers are in staff leve
. >> at yesterday's white house meeting, president obama did not offer negotiators anything new. he just tried to sell them on the same plan he outlined last friday, being called plan c. since the president's plan a and speaker boehner's plan b both failed to gain traction. plan c would extend middle class tax rates and we're told the senate wants to tweak exactly who counts as being in the middle class. maybe even raising the income threshold and the white house is apparently willing to...
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something else whether or not president obama will wrap up the fiscal cliff talks next week. >> time now to entertain this. it is official jessica simpson expecting another baby. the 32-year-old celebrity tweet add photo of her daughter sitting in front of a sign drawn in the sandwich says big sis. cute little girl isn't she? the announcement comes 7 months after giving birth to that little girl her first child. it has been a good year for hollywood 2012 marched through the industry's highest year on record for 1 billion in ticket sales. is rock and roll hazardous to your health? it might be. you to those playing it. researches in inge lantd studying more than 1500 musicians famous between 1956 and 2006. they found 137 of nthem or 9.2 percent of them were dead. that is a higher mortality rate than those in the general population. >> time to look at the sports stories new season but same results. lebr lebron james and the heat. suddenly the lashgs can't lose. 194 for the fourth straight win. they are back for 500 for the season. kobe bryant a record for the 16th christmas day game. he
something else whether or not president obama will wrap up the fiscal cliff talks next week. >> time now to entertain this. it is official jessica simpson expecting another baby. the 32-year-old celebrity tweet add photo of her daughter sitting in front of a sign drawn in the sandwich says big sis. cute little girl isn't she? the announcement comes 7 months after giving birth to that little girl her first child. it has been a good year for hollywood 2012 marched through the industry's...
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an emergency meeting tomorrow at the white house. president barack obama, speaker of the house john boehner, house minority leader nancy pelosi, harry reid and mitch mcconnell. can they make a deal or can they do their jobs or is this just more political drama? >> we want an agreement. >> the count down is midnight. the start of a new year. >> we are going over the cliff because frankly i believe it's what the president wants. >> the american people are waiting for the ball to drop, but it's not going to be a good drop. >> but we have no takers. >> every republican, every democrat ought to be here. >> the phone never raining. >> they should negotiate a plan. they shouldn't have the mine are in plan, they should have the biglan. >> here we are five days from the new year, and we might finally start talking. >> the republicans are sitting there with a nuclear weapon. they have the debt ceiling coming up. they can use that as part of this negotiation. >> what is going on here? >> the president called me and probably called others last n
an emergency meeting tomorrow at the white house. president barack obama, speaker of the house john boehner, house minority leader nancy pelosi, harry reid and mitch mcconnell. can they make a deal or can they do their jobs or is this just more political drama? >> we want an agreement. >> the count down is midnight. the start of a new year. >> we are going over the cliff because frankly i believe it's what the president wants. >> the american people are waiting for the...
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that is not the case because president obama doesn't propose serious budgets. >> sean: senator toomey, how is this going to work because speaker boehner tried to pass a plan b. the president in the meeting today is insisting on raising taxes on small business and individuals over $250,000. but yet he wants to work through the senate. how how does this get through the house when they couldn't get it with a million dollars limit? >> well, first -- >> sean: or a million dollars cutoff. >> i don't know where the threshold might end up in the negotiations. my suspicion is that is perhaps one of the topics under discussion and second point i would make i think a part of the reticence is because they were afraid what would happen when it got over to the senate. if there is a reason package that can attract a lot of republican support in the senate then i think the prospect in the house improves dramatically. all depends on what is in the deal but that is a scenario that i think is plausible. >> sean: gentlemen, thank you both for spending time. happy new year and appreciate you being with us
that is not the case because president obama doesn't propose serious budgets. >> sean: senator toomey, how is this going to work because speaker boehner tried to pass a plan b. the president in the meeting today is insisting on raising taxes on small business and individuals over $250,000. but yet he wants to work through the senate. how how does this get through the house when they couldn't get it with a million dollars limit? >> well, first -- >> sean: or a million dollars...
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if the senators don't like it, it's a bad sign and president obama will left his hawaiian vacation to come and work on this, says if we do go off the cliff once again it would be very bad for the economy. >> we just can't afford a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. the economy is growing, but keeping it that way means that the folks you sent to washington have to do their jobs. the housing market is healing and that could stall and people see smaller paychecks. >> reporter: and told us last night there's been no major progress. back to you. >> juliet: oh, well. >> dave: and we heard about on friday seemed to dried up. >> clayton: so cautious. >> juliet: i would say i appreciate cautious. >> clayton: well, much has been made about this $250,000 cap that's where the president initially wanted to raise the-- raise revenues taxing anyone over-- making over $250,000 for the household. so, $200,000 for a single person and $250,000 for a married couple. now, it seems like that number is being shifted because oh, much has come out about that $250,000 range, right? that if you're
if the senators don't like it, it's a bad sign and president obama will left his hawaiian vacation to come and work on this, says if we do go off the cliff once again it would be very bad for the economy. >> we just can't afford a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. the economy is growing, but keeping it that way means that the folks you sent to washington have to do their jobs. the housing market is healing and that could stall and people see smaller paychecks. >>...
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. >> arthel: i'm art article. 11th how-hour scrambling after a meeting with president obama and leaders from the house and senate with high noon fast approaching, president is pushing to seal the deal. >> modestly optimistic that an agreement can be achieved. nobody is going to get hundred percent of what they want. let's make sure that middle-class families and the american economy and in fact the world economy are not adversely impacted because people can do their can't do their jobs. >> arthel: now the latest. >> discussions are ongoing but we shouldn't expect any announcements before senators are briefed. key players are pretty tight-lipped. after a white house meeting yesterday, one of the top negotiators sounded hopeful. >> we had a longs meeting in the white house, very constructive. we hope that it will bear fruit. i think that the next 24 hours will be very instructive as to what we're able to accomplish. >> reporter: sources say john boehner referred to his senate colleagues and told them house leaders would consider their plan. one item raising the debt limit is not expected
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everyone is calling president obama responsible for this meeting. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel is live on capitol hill. what where republican leaders saying about today's meeting? reporter: republicans in office do not control the white house. they need to cooperate and to actually support a final plan in the senate. so they are pushing to see what the president will offer at this meeting. a leading senate republican sounded pretty skeptical about this meeting. >> anytime you nonsedating public publicly in washington, it is usually for political theater purposes. my bet is that it's all political theater. jon: republicans have made the point that it is time for the senate to act. they are also anxious to see what the president has to offer. obviously, we are waiting to see whether there will be enough republican support for whatever is offered to get us a bill through the house and senate. harris: what is happening on the democratic side? reporter: they are frustrated. they wanted that house republicans to return a lot sooner to wo
everyone is calling president obama responsible for this meeting. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel is live on capitol hill. what where republican leaders saying about today's meeting? reporter: republicans in office do not control the white house. they need to cooperate and to actually support a final plan in the senate. so they are pushing to see what the president will offer at this meeting. a leading senate republican sounded pretty skeptical about this meeting. >>...
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they saved my life and the life of four others who were at that meeting. gregg: another fox news alert. this new development in the fight over the fiscal crisis as lawmakers head home for the holidays. there are reports president obama is scaling back his hope for a sweeping budget bargain with republicans. welcome to a brand new hour of "america live". i'm gregg jarrett. heather: i'm heather childers. we're in for megyn kelly. the president reportedly looking to strike a smaller deal that would extend tax cuts for the middle class without tackling spending cuts as reports surfaced that the president hasn't spoken with speaker boehner since he expressed his frustration at a news conference on friday. take a listen. >> we passed a bill to stop all the tax hikes on the american people scheduled to take effect january the 1st and we did that on august the 1st. and we proposed plans over and over again that democrats used to support but now they won't. heather: chief white house correspondent ed henry is live for us in honolulu. that is where the president isi
they saved my life and the life of four others who were at that meeting. gregg: another fox news alert. this new development in the fight over the fiscal crisis as lawmakers head home for the holidays. there are reports president obama is scaling back his hope for a sweeping budget bargain with republicans. welcome to a brand new hour of "america live". i'm gregg jarrett. heather: i'm heather childers. we're in for megyn kelly. the president reportedly looking to strike a smaller deal...
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. >> julia: moving on, president obama is going to meet with the congressional leaders today . one of these meetings "i think lindsay graham saying these are usually dog and pony shows. either you have a deal done meetings that are called in the white house or it is just for show. what do you think? >> kelly: i talked to a bunch of congress people yesterday who said there is a group in the house. republicans in the house that said we can't raise taxes and we shouldn't raise them at all but can't do more than john boehner's plan b, and didn't go to a vote. >> one for million. icle >> it would raise you billion in revenue. they were not for it in the first place but maybe get something through if obama willing to cut. obama administration said if you pass it in the house and september passed it, obama would veto it anyway. they are so far apart. this i am flying back from hawaii and see if i can bring them back together. they are far apart as they have been. >> kelly: why are they having the meeting? because of the talk and rhetoric is ramping up and the agreement is going down.
. >> julia: moving on, president obama is going to meet with the congressional leaders today . one of these meetings "i think lindsay graham saying these are usually dog and pony shows. either you have a deal done meetings that are called in the white house or it is just for show. what do you think? >> kelly: i talked to a bunch of congress people yesterday who said there is a group in the house. republicans in the house that said we can't raise taxes and we shouldn't raise...